Now that Law 2.0 seems to be taking off, there’s a good opportunity to talk about what Law 2.0 is, could be and is in danger of becoming. It’s the start of a long discussion. This is a work in progress so it might change over the next week.
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Is Law 2.0 gonna be alright ??
To my thinking, the objective is the same as Web 2.0: give people data, data and more data on the theory that everyone benefits when law is interpreted and disseminated in a distributed way. Yet, there’s a nagging suspicion that the procedural aspects of Law 2.0 are gonna cause difficulties, even if the objective is loverly.
In fact, to be responsible, we just have to ask the (tepid) question whether there might be something about law that makes it different than real estate, product and service reviews and satellite maps.
More crassly: is there something in the process of retasking public legal data through open source technology in order to sell it back to the public in a cooler form that doesn’t quite work when it comes to law?
Well, the answer just might be “yeah…but no…but yeah…” 
While researching the Avvo launch (see following article), my attention was literally snatched away by a Google item, which lead to an e-mail thread (part of which is reproduced below). Read it, and you’ll see why that article follows this one, instead of the other way around.
What’s all the fuss about?
The problem that many Law 2.0 sites are going to face is going to appear on several fronts. A big one is going to concern the distinction between public data and public data for purposes of commercial internet dissemination. How well the law-based Web 2.0 companies weather the storm will determine how well Law 2.0 does in the long-run.
I leave for another article the question of databases, because there is a nascent revolution in law, thanks in large part to the tandem decision by many courts to digitize the presentation of pleadings and evidence coupled with the decision to publish opinions on-line, rather than exclusively through the established publishers (West, Lexis, etc.) and the decision by many legislatures to publish legislation on line, again at the expense of established commercial publishers. Add to that the blog system, which frees many legal commentators from the law review and treatise outlets, and the smackdown gets closer everyday. Nolo doesn’t yet know what it started, but they’re getting there.
How Web 2.0 is Law 2.0??
Ok, so the question for today is: what is Law 2.0? Is it a legal-topic site based on Web 2.0 website OR an Internet-based website that deals with legal information in a fundamentally new way. I think there’s a HUGE difference, epending upon how you look at the outcome. Time will tell whether the money follows something new, or whether the future brings more Web 2.0 sites with a legal theme.
First, let’s recap some of the salient features of Web 2.0, in a really glossed over (but hopefully relevant) kinda way.
Web 1.0 was basically the ability to use HTML in create ways with a touch of Flash or JavaScript. Anyone could do HTML with a few hours in the bookstore, because code was simple. A lot of people become programmers and web designers without the slighest bit of university paper because, well, they could. Half-way down the road, XML came back into it’s own, but MySQL databases cut out a huge chunk of energy that would probably have gone to XML…if SQL hadn’t been A WHOLE LOT EASIER!
The concept of Web 2.0 continued this tradition, but added three components: rapid development by small “agile” teams, open source technology and altruistic customers. This cocktail kicked Web 1.0 up an entire notch, by creating feedback loops, noise and movement, linking superstructures and adding more than a touch of new *money*.
VC money came, even post DotCom Bust, because a few key companies were able to prove that cheap information in a shiny package could be support advertising revenue.
Once the ‘Net became the new TV, enough had been said and many (many, many) Web 2.0 companies were built to take advantage of public data. Google Map knockoffs, Craig’s List, Zillow, Google, Amazon, Digg, Technorati, … and other offerings made money because they could get data cheap or free, repackage it and “give” it back to the consumer. Essentially, the advertiser-driven model freed Web 2.0 producers from doing anything more than creating “cool.”
Amazon and others did one better by adding neat feedback loops and customer feelings of ownership over the product. This meant they got even MORE free data. While Digg, MySpace and FaceBook are having some growing pains, they flourished because of chatty post GenX customers who were happy enough to exchange personal data for the joy they got out of the portal-with-huge-fonts. I suspect there’s something Freudian in there, but ok.
What does search do but tell you where stuff is?? Yet Google? My goodness! The Google Guys made billions by getting lots of programmers with free time to help them create the coolest interface and tools for search of, well, card catalog data about the web. All for the price of an algorithm or two, bandwidth, hardware and some highly-talented programmers. Much cheaper than paying footsoldiers and typists.
So, what’s even remotely “cool” about the law??
Ok, I’m struggling here, because the law, by itself is the best cure for insomnia you can imagine. Yet, if Google Maps could turn latitude and longitude into an international obsession, there’s no doubt that the law can also be sexed up a great deal. Yet, from all indications, this is not what I would call Law 2.0, which is a fundamental change in the way law is dealt with on a popular front, but Web 2.0 plain and simple: repackaging free data for consumption by eyeballs which are then consumed by advertisers.
So, what gives with Legal Zoom?
Legal Zoom, co-founded by Robert Shapiro (remember OJ?, yeah, that guy), is actually a Law 2.0 site. In other words, it attempts to tackle fundamental issues of the law in a new way (well, sorta). So, then, why is it in trouble:
We have been in negotiations with LegalZoom for more than a year over
their theft of our copy written materials. They have admitted to the
violation, and have removed our materials from their site. However, they
also have been accused of practicing law without a license in Montana
and other states. Their practice seems to be to scour public sites that
provide forms and information for free, take them and modify them to a
small degree, then sell them for upwards of $500 to unsuspecting low
income people. In many cases the forms cannot even be used in the
litigant’s jurisdiction, but the company will not refund the fee. If
someone wants to discuss this with me (I chair Montana’s Commission on
Self-Represented Litigants) they are welcome to call or email me
directly.
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Tammy A. Hinderman
Reference Librarian
State Law Library of Montana
215 N. Sanders St.
P.O. Box 203004
Helena, MT 59620
406-444-3636
mtlawlibrary@mt.gov
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—–Original Message—–
From: owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu [mailto:owner-law-lib@ucdavis.edu] On
Behalf Of Jacoby, Robert Andrew
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:44 PM
To: law-lib@ucdavis.edu
Subject: legal zoom?
A professor here has a question about legalzoom.com, which is a legal
documentation service. Specifically he is interested in their patent
services and wants to know if they are legitimate or not. Are there any
horror stories about the company?
http://www.legalzoom.com
I have done some googling about the company, but I am leery of websites
I don’t know giving glowing reviews or hit pieces.
Thanks,
Robert Jacoby
Reference/Electronic Services Librarian
LaValley Law Library
University of Toledo
That’s not the entire thread, but it’s enough. So, heres the problem: lawyers sell time and paper. That’s basically it.
So, if LegalZoom has followed the Web 2.0 model and taken public data, repackaged it and then sold it back to the consumer, how is that a copyright problem? Further, if legal briefs submitted to the court (and thus public data) can be “protected” by copyright, –what else can be?
At the end of the day, legal briefs are usually not original, and usually not very well written. If someone takes a brief, smartens it up, however, should the cleaner get a copyright in something they really didn’t write, just because the purpose wasn’t court submission but commercial sale?
At some point, it seems that copyright in a legal brief is ridiculous, but even 5 years ago, there was discussion about whether legal briefs can be copyrighted. Here’s just a snippet of the conversation:
Re: Copyrighting Legal Briefs
From: David Bryant (drb7949@concentric.net)
Date: 04/17/02
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Since the attorney is the author of an original work, and since many others
are scanning legal documents and selling reproductions as document service
providers for a fee, why should the attorney be precluded from copyright
protection against unauthorized reproduction? If the Library of Congress
can copyright the LC Classification tables, the Idaho Supreme Court their
opinions, the Maricopa County Clerk their court forms, why can’t attorneys
do the same for pleadings, including briefs? This does not preclude fair
use or recopying boiler plate pleadings. I have suggested this approach to
attorneys for the last three years, especially in light of the recent
NYTimes Supreme Court case (Tasimi?). The real issue is: who owns the law?
David R Bryant, former adjunct faculty and lecturer in Law Librarianship
Dominican University GSLIS Box 809 LaGrange, IL 60525-0809
drb7949@concentric.net 708-352-3039
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From: “S. Matheson”
To:
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: Copyrighting Legal Briefs
I noticed this last week when someone here provided the link to the
Milberg
briefs… The story on Marketplace (from Minnesota Public Radio and PRI)
focused mainly on Milberg’s disenchantment with other class-action
litigators “scanning,” editing and filing briefs they had written.
A Boalt IP professor interviewed in the piece was dubious about the scope
of
protection offered legal briefs under the copyright law. There was also
mention about an attorney’s ethical obligations to make the best argument
possible on behalf of their clients.
The only things that William S. Lerach has registered copyright in are
CLE-type materials, no briefs, yet. (But of course, the Copyright Office
is
still digging out from under the September-induced mail backlog… so who
knows.) I know registration is not required to claim protection, but
challenging such a registration would be a good way to have the Register
of
Copyrights define the scope of protection afforded to legal briefs under
the
copyright law.
To view Milberg’s (interesting) copyright statement, visit
http://www.milberg.com/pdf/consolidated_complaint.pdf
Scott
[snip]
Here’s the thing: if lawyers are going to continue to use the web, they’re going to have to let go of the monopoly on legal information. We can’t rejoice at not having to pay for searchable legal opinions, while at the same time, decrying the availability of legal briefs on-line. There is a problem in moetizing the work of someone else, but I think it’s more of an ethical problem (not providing consumers with real assistance), more than a copyright issue.
Tome, the whole concept of Law 2.0 means that there has to be a significant shift in the way law is practiced, which also means a shift in the products and services from which lawyers make their living. I’m not sure that we have too many lawyers in this country, but we certainly have too many in some paces and far too few in others. If the Internet forces a rationalization of the legal profession, that’s probably a good thing.